Hillary Rodham Clinton: Scold in Chief?

Last Friday, NY's junior senator informed a Republican leaning audience at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's annual convention that America's young adults, "think work is a four letter word."

Come on now. Let's have it. Let me hear all the exuses fellow Democrats have been making for a woman who is rapidly beginning to resemble Phyllis Schlafly a hell of a lot more than Eleanor Roosevelt. Let me hear how smart she is for tacking to the right and acknowledging the (supposed) electoral realities rather than having the courage to use her enormous stature to LEAD America away from the path of right-wing devastation.

How dare she. How dare she question the work ethic of young people who are busting their tails waiting tables, bagging groceries and doing hundreds of other menial,low paid tasks and, most of whom, undoubtedly have plans to WORK their way into a better future. This is shameless and unnecessary pandering that borders on the obscene. Democrats should be reaching out with both hands to our debt laden young people by giving them reasons to get active in Democratic party politics and to vote for us.

"We've got to send a different message to our young people" Phyllis (oops, I mean Hillary)told the well-heeled crowd. "America didn't happen by accident. A lot of people worked really hard. They've got to do their part too." Rush Limbaugh couldn't have mangled American history any better.

Yes Mrs. Clinton, America did not happen by accident. It took the back breaking work of a lot of Indian and Black slaves and a mulitude of immigrants from all over the world that all share one thing in common: none of them were welcomed when they first arrived on U.S. shores (the immigrants, I mean, not the Indians and slaves). With regard to the immigrants at least, the Democratic Party was at one time saavy enough to recognize the reciprocal possibilities of reaching out to them. This helped to create solid Democratic majorities in America's cities and provided one of the underpinnings of the New Deal coalition.

Can we do the same with what should be another natural constituency for the party?

I severely doubt it if we progressive Democrats continue to allow scolds like Mrs. Clinton to pander for votes from the pin striped suit set without raising our voices in repsonse.

Al Ronzoni, Jr.



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That's what pols do (none / 0)

Pander for votes, that is.

The alternative, John Kerry, approach - I'm clearly the better candidate, so of course you'll be voting for me - really worked out for him!

I honestly don't think you can take old-style Dem machine politics as any standard: immigrants were exploited for their ignorance, and a lot of pols and their friends did very well out of it.

And let's not mention the shameless, century-long attachment of Northern Dems to their lynching cousins from Dixie, just for the grubby motive of getting to a majority in Congress.

No principle, just business. Why should 2006 be any different from 1906 in that respect?

(Note the sweet little family touch from Hill - she gets Chelsea to 'chide her' and give her room for rowback. See - she's sensitive, really!)


by skeptic06 on Mon May 15, 2006 at 01:05:31 PM EST

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I must admit this comment struck a chord because I see this at my job.  There is a real sense of entitlement from kids graduating from college these days.  I am in my 40s and my first job out of school was answering phones and doing data entry.  Pretty boring but I understood that you start at the bottom and work your way up.  I see people starting out in their early 20s asking why they don't have offices and being resentful of having to make copies.  They want to know how quickly they will advance rather than asking how they can advance.  It is like career advancment is marking time rather than through hard work and merit.  Interesting that my wife and sister see a similar attitude at their work places.  

I am not trying to sound like an old cynic but my nephews were never required to have after school jobs like I did.  They don't have to do chores in order to get allowance money like I did.  

My friends who are teachers tell me about parents berating them on regular basis about giving their kids poor grades.  Funny, when I got bad grades I was blamed by my parents for not working hard enough.

The problem lies with middle and upper middle class parents more than the kids.  They are raising a group of children that are told the world revolves around and they in turn feel entitled.  My experience is anecdotal but obviously others are seeing it.  

I know others will disagree but I am glad it was raised.  It is a discussion this country needs to have.

I should note I am not supporting Hillary for President.


by John Mills on Mon May 15, 2006 at 01:26:30 PM EST

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Actually, couldn't agree more w/ John.

I live near a large state university (where I also went to grad school in the 90s) and have had ample opportunity to discuss this with students who are graduating today.

Upper and middle class parents are part of it (see IvyWise) but I also attribute it to a 'get mine now' type attitude that appears to be prevalent.

For example, while I was in grad school (sciences), so many dropped out for attractive 70k-80k salaries for simple coding tasks, while those of us who chose to plod along in our grad programs were considered suckers. Similarly, the recent boom in real estate appreciation has reinforced the 'ride the wave' approach to socio-economic mobility.

Another factor is that education costs have skyrocketed in the last five years, so graduates are looking to 'jump start' the loan repayment process, for example.

I don't see a link to source, but I did read something about this in the New York Post (!) over the weekend. The article did not intend to flatter Hillary Clinton, as far as I could tell -- the word 'scold' figured prominently. It did mention that her favorables are quite high w/ the youth demographic 18-34, so I did not interpret her comments as pandering (if so, not to this crowd).


by dblhelix on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:30:57 PM EST
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Most of her comments donot deal with the big issues.

She thinks she can glide to the nomination, because she is entitled.


by BobM on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:01:24 PM EST

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She is two faced.  When she is in the senate, she says that the Bush administration isn't creating jobs thats one of the cause for lack of employment and then she says that people aren't willing to do enough to find jobs.  She is just like her husband.


by mleflo2 on Mon May 15, 2006 at 02:44:51 PM EST

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I am of this generation, and I take offense to her comments.  Instead of blaming the youth, she should be working to make sure that we can succeed, by providing us with money to go to college, and not let Bush raise interest rates on student loans without making hell over it.  Does she actually want college kids on her campaign?


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by Max Friedman on Mon May 15, 2006 at 04:00:33 PM EST

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"Scolds like Mrs. Clinton"? That is incredilby sexist, using the term "scolds"  - and that is Senator Clinton to you.  If you want to criticize her, fine, but leave the chauvinism at the door, please.


by budwina on Mon May 15, 2006 at 08:45:35 PM EST

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This isn't chauvinism, this is real life.  Average citizens, who want to work can't find jobs and she is ridiculing people.  The job growth is only catching up to the population growth, and the youth are the last ones to get hired.


by mleflo2 on Tue May 16, 2006 at 11:53:39 PM EST
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Re: Hillary Rodham Clinton: Scold in Chief? (none / 0)

You are totally overeacting to my title where I merely pose the question is she acting like a scold (please note the question mark). I never used the word scold to describe her in the body of my diary.

According to the dictionary the word scold, though it is usually used to describe a female, is actually a gender neutral term; "one who persistently nags or criticizes." The term has been used more than once to describe former Reagan administration Education Secretary Bill Bennett.

As for how I choose to address a public SERVANT whose salary I help to pay, rest assured I will address her any damn way I like.

Al


by Al122 on Sat May 20, 2006 at 04:59:06 PM EST
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